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I was talking to a friend of mine regarding the recent Sinestro Corps storyline that started in the eponymous special and has started to continue in Green Lantern Corps and Green Lantern.

One of the big reveals of the SC special was that the Sinestro Corp is being masterminded by the Anti-Monitor, who was the archvillain behind Crisis on Infinite Earths. Now, the AM was destroyed in the final pages of CoIE (although by the end it was a bit of a "Why! Won't! You! Die!" situation). My friend Chris remarked that it seemed like they were just reversing Crisis.

The odd part is that it seems like the past 22 years have been one long reversal of CoIE. I mean, as of last check: Monitor, alive (and multiplying); Anti-Monitor, Alive; Multiple Earths, reinstated; Supergirl, not dead; Barry Allen, I have no idea, but I'll bet he's made an appearance or two.

Everything of pretty much any significance has been reversed. Even Morrison brought the CSA back (did he have Power Ring in that group? How does he fit into the Weaponers of Qward/Anti-Matter Universe paradigm? Am I too massive a geek to contemplate for asking?).

Crisis is turning into something like the Superman Red and Superman Blue stories, or the Batmen of the World ones. Weird, how the story that was supposed to clean up continuity (proof of failure? Hawkman) is now a disposed piece of continuity itself.

Date: 2007-07-12 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tfbretz.livejournal.com
"Weird, how the story that was supposed to clean up continuity (proof of failure? Hawkman) is now a disposed piece of continuity itself."

And I, for one, couldn't be happier.

I think of the original Crisis as DC's "New Coke Moment." It just took them twenty plus years to realize it.

But not really, if you factor in Zero Hour and Hypertime and the other stuff along the way that tried somewhat half-heartedly to restore the multiverse. The difference this time is that DC's editorial policy seems to be completely behind it.

Date: 2007-07-12 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stop-no-dont.livejournal.com
Barry Allen made a couple of appearances during Geoff John's run on The Flash. Once he advised Wally not to give up the mantle in the wake of his first run-in with the newly-Zoomified Hunter Zolomon. The second, which I enjoyed, was to back Wally up at the conclusion of the "Rogue War," against Zolomon and the original Prof. Zoom.

Date: 2007-07-12 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] creativedv8tion.livejournal.com

Well, I'm not sure I'd agree the entire past 22 years has been a reversal - they did make an effort for a few, and most of the examples you cite are in the past 5 years, aren't they?

But yeah, I thought it was pretty much given that the real multiverse, not just this 52-Earth half-assed version, is coming back. I thought that's what the Countdown was counting down to - Final Crisis or whatever next year's big event is.

(Personally, they should be honest and call it COIE: Full Circle)

Date: 2007-07-13 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] creativedv8tion.livejournal.com

COIE: Those 80s were sure wacky days, weren't they?

Date: 2007-07-14 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] creativedv8tion.livejournal.com

COIE: We Miss The Old Days

Date: 2007-07-12 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Yeah, honestly, it pisses me off. Notice how they won't even bump off the original Question, just to cover their asses in case Renee Montoya doesn't go over? He's just in an alternate universe now. Yeesh.

STILL better than the mess that is the 616, though.

Date: 2007-07-13 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crashing-angel.livejournal.com
I agree - it seems like we're heading right back into that mess they call the DC universe. Everyone dead is alive, they kill people for the hell of it. I have no idea what DC is trying to pull off anymore.

Date: 2007-07-13 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jkahane.livejournal.com
I gotta say that I personally have found the DC Universe to be a travesty since the original CoIE happened back in 1985. Part of my displeasure with it stems from the fact that they eliminated Superboy and Supergirl from continuity, thus wrecking 30 years worth of Legion of Super-Heroes continuity, and have spent since that time trying LSH reboot after reboot after reboot.

The truth of the matter is that DC screwed up big-time and have been trying to "correct" the mistakes ever since. Sad, but true. Goddess alone knows how they're going to resolve the whole current mess they have going on with COUNTDOWN and the lead-up to Final Crisis or whatever they will call it, but I don't believe for a minute there are going to be more than 52 Earths. And I sure don't believe that it's going to be a Multiverse as we remember it.

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