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[thebitterguy]

Heroes, One Season Later.

Hoo. I can't say I've ever been so dissatisfied to be right.

Okay, we can assume that the Petrelli boys are dead, which means they might, in fact, not be. Trust me, it makes sense.

It was strangely paced. And how close was Issac's studio to Kirby Plaza, anyway? Parkman hustles down there, finds nothing, sees painting, and still makes it back in time to be useless in the battle? With his donut condition, I find that hard to believe.

It seemed to be everyone tag teaming with Peter to beat Sylar, until Hiro showed up and ran him through.

Of course, it ends up that Hiro's prediction was based on faulty intel, since stabbing Sylar didn't do anything to stop the exploding man.

The highlight of the show was the end, with a preview of Heroes S2.Generations will bprobably go deeper into the previous generations of the Heroes universe. So we'll see Nakamura Sr, Claude (maybe), the Petrellis, Mr. Deveraux, and Lindrerman's 'adventures', although I wonder how much of it will be just them doing bad things.

One quick question: I've seen some people saying they thought Heroes was going to be a single season endeavour. Are these people retarded? Seriously, a network tv show in the US never stops, especially if it's successful. If Lost's ratings weren't wobbling on an axis, there's no chance they'd have gotten away with 3:16 and done. It's all about the bottom line.

I just hope Nissan doesn't get its fangs into the show quite as deep next year. The tital sequences will hopefuly still be clever.

Hopefully the novels are nice n' stuff. I notice they're asking if you've noticed the secrets in the interactive versions. Anyone found anything yet?

Comments

Sylar=Shredder?

[gamera-spinning.livejournal.com]

I count my blessings that there were no ninja turtles (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108308/) in the closing scene.

Re: Sylar=Shredder?

[thebitterguy]

Or garbage trucks, for that matter.

[stop-no-dont.livejournal.com]

My own thoughts are here. (http://stop-no-dont.livejournal.com/212879.html) You get name-dropped.

I guess the one thing we can take away from this episode is that the Days of Future Past are not going to happen, since the city was spared from the EmoBomber. One theory I've read that I'm starting to support: Nakamura-Sama will in fact be Kensei.

[thebitterguy]

Yah, saw that. I can dig Hiro's papa being Kensai as one possibility, or at least an ancestor.

[ptevis.livejournal.com]

"Of course, it ends up that Hiro's prediction was based on faulty intel, since stabbing Sylar didn't do anything to stop the exploding man."

My theory is this: We know that in the original timeline, Sylar kills Claire, so when Hiro stabs him, it doesn't do anything. I propose that originally, Sylar stops Nathan from flying Peter away. By keeping Sylar from killing Claire, Hiro allows Nathan to intervene.

[thebitterguy]

I thought that since Nathan lived long enough to 'turn against his people' (which I assumed meant working with Linderman), in the alternate/original timeline, Nathan never went to help Peter during the detonation.

[kaijugal.livejournal.com]

Ah, poor Parkman. I maintain that his real super power is intense bad luck. I hope things improve for him, as I'm quite a fan of him and his "donut condition". :P *grins*
P.S. It looks however that since Greg Grunberg is shilling for Weight Watchers these days, he might be out to ruin his cute little bod.

The season ender did seem somewhat anti climactic. But I'm greatful for that over some stupid plot twist such as all the heroes suddenly morphing together to form voltron or some crud like that. I hate shows that are amazingly engadging only to have an incredibly lame ending.

Did the ending, or more accurately the beginning of Pt 2, make anyone else suddenly think of Army Of Darkness? :D

Originally I was guessing that perhaps Hiro's father was Kensei, and perhaps has his own power, (i.e. super longjevity, or perhaps uncontroled time travel and ended up in modern day japan), but yes I have to agree with stop_no_dont that based on this new information it looks like it might be Hiro himself.

[stop-no-dont.livejournal.com]

I don't know about Voltron, but it remains to be seen whether this new group bonds into a sort of SuperFriends team like the one that Linderman talked about earlier in the season.

[uhlrik.livejournal.com]

Intense bad luck?

Parkman did pretty well, I thought. He's got a one-and-one record for fighting Sylar, which isn't bad for a telepath cop with a doughnut condition versus the series megavillain.

[thebitterguy]

I think the first time was a tie, really. Sylar got away scot free, but iddn't eat Molly.

So Parkman's 0-1-1 with Sylar. Not significantly worse than Peter's 1-1-1.

And Hiro got an assist on the win, too.

[stop-no-dont.livejournal.com]

With a partial assist to Jessica for lending Peter her super-strength.

One slightly funny note: the Entertainment Weekly boards don't tolerate use of the word "Peter," so just about every entry about the show goes like, "I was surprised ***** was the bomb!"

[uhlrik.livejournal.com]

That is funny. What's funnier is that people were surprised.

[uhlrik.livejournal.com]

The status of the first match is debatable. Sylar did get away, but he had a belly full of lead for his trouble.

Either way, you're right about Parkman's stats compared to Peter's.

The assist raises the question: did Hiro get the assist on Peter's win, or did Peter get the assist on Hiro's win? Hiro was the guy that stuck the sharp thing into someplace that bleeds and collapses.

[creativedv8tion.livejournal.com]

One quick question: I've seen some people saying they thought Heroes was going to be a single season endeavour. Are these people retarded? Seriously, a network tv show in the US never stops, especially if it's successful.

I think what they're referring to is that the original thought behind HEROES was each season would be about a (mostly) different cast of characters, but that has since been shelved. They'll be bringing in new ones, but not getting rid of most, either.

[optimussven.livejournal.com]

I still really don't get the Nathan thing. I mean, why couldn't he just let Claire shoot Peter that way only one person is dead, not two. He could have just showed up and given some statement of love to Peter to let him know he never let him down. Seriously, why kill yourself? Unless he didn't want to have to go home and face his mother.

Alternate theory? The guy who plays Nathan didn't want to do a second season.

[thebitterguy]

I presume a dead Peter would have still gone critical.

[troy-duffy.livejournal.com]

May. 18th, 2007 07:17 am (local)
I'm guessing, or possibly fanwanking, that when Peter starts losing control of his nuclear powers that the experience is so stressful or painful that he won't be able to focus enough to fly.

Which is why Nathan has to be the one to fly Peter out of the city, in a redeeming moment of self-sacrifice. Maybe :)

Called it :)

[thebitterguy]

Have we ever seen Peter use more than one power at once?

[neosis.livejournal.com]

No and he shouldn't really be able to. He described his powers as working when he thinks about how the person feels. It's very difficult to feel two different emotions at once.

[kaijugal.livejournal.com]

Hurrah, people who don't think Parkman is a complete write off. ^_^ Hopefully the writers agree and I'll get at least another season of yumminess.

As for Nathan flying Peter up. Technically he could have flown him up, let go, and jetted the hell out of there, (he IS awfully fast). Peter would presumably explode, but Nathan could easily be out of the blast radius.

Since everything was off screen, there are 100 ways it could go.

Was anyone else totally baffled how everyone just let Sylar slime off into the sewers?

On another note, they are supposed to be introducing at least one new character next season. I hope we get another girl. Someone less all american blonde, and less angsty.

Oh, and Justin. They wimped out. The shapechanger wasn't more than 125lbs soaking wet. :P Lame.

[thebitterguy]

At the very least, Grunberg should get a character who isn't quite a tool.

Nathan and Peter are both elegible for ajudication under "no body, no death" rules. And Sylar, well, he's a supervillain. Do you think the cops would have been any better at holding him than PrimaTech?

I'm hoping for at least one black woman. Is that too much to ask for?

Yeah, Candice didn't appear to fulfill any plus size ambitions.

[neosis.livejournal.com]

I think Sylar has the suggestion power from Eve, doesn't he? I seem to remember him using the power before, maybe he used it to say "forget about me, I'm dead"?

I know that's a pretty far reach, but it really doesn't make much sense...

[thebitterguy]

No, Eve killed herself so that Sylar wouldn't be able to steal her power.

I'm just willing to accept the nuclear Petrelli Show distracted everyone long enough for him to slither into the sewers.

[neosis.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I remember her doing that, I'm just wondering if it actually worked. I'm probably wrong, but I could have sworn I saw him use the power once after she killed herself.

[deven-science.livejournal.com]

I was disappointed by the shapeshifter too! Haha. Maybe even knocked out, she maintains her preferred shape, but I was vexed to see her merely shift back to the beautiful actress that we have already seen.

The same thought of Nathan dropping Peter once high enough occurred to me, although, one would think that even carrying him up there would give you a fatal dose of radiation. Peter can heal, and we haven't seen the last of him, but I would be hard pressed to find a way for Nathan not to be dead.

[thebitterguy]

I assumed they figured it would be too hard to explain to people. Either that, or she just took a lot of pilates courses in the interim to fit into her skirts.

[eddyfate.livejournal.com]

The whole show feels like it was written to be released as a DVD set. Maybe once it's out of DVD, the show will click together better for me. As it stands, I stopped watching in bits and chunks, and found I didn't really miss a whole lot by skippin, say, six episodes.

When "Noah Bennet" is the most surprising thing to come out of a season finale, you might be telegraphing too much.

[thebitterguy]

That's a common problem with the source material, too. Too many comics are reading like trade paperbacks in the making.

Although I definitely would have missed a bit too much if I'd skipped six episodes.

[eddyfate.livejournal.com]

Hrm. I can't say I'm more familiar with the material (since you seem to be a bigger comic fan than me). Maybe I just got lucky in how I saw the plots playing out?

[thebitterguy]

Probably. You probably just have enough narrative chops to fill in the gaps with the Previously On bits. Or maybe my expert recapping skills allowed you to engage the storyline fully?

[eddyfate.livejournal.com]

It could entirely be your mad recapping skillz.

[normanrafferty.livejournal.com]

I was very disappointed with the pacing of the finale. The fight was especially trouble-some, with the cliche of last-gasp blast and villian crawls away. I've heard the latter defended for various reasons, but the directing clearly puts Sylar's body in the center of a flat expanse in a well-lit area while several people look on, and they all missed it. It really felt dishonest to the audience.

[thebitterguy]

Well, WRT Syler, they can at least say that everyone was distracted by the flying politician and his exploding brother.

That final fight, though, they could have tightened it up.