thebitterguy

I actually loved the new Punisher, especially compared to Dolph's Most Excellent Sewer Adeventure.

And what was wrong with the Russian?

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Well, he didn't seem terribly Russian (It's DIALOGUE, people! Use it!). And he was a bit too "uber-God", breakin' Guns and batting back grenades.

And he dies by falling down stairs. That was just dumb.

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It was funny to me.

Mostly because I've watched Nash wrestle for years and this was one of his better performances. He actually acted like he felt things.

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Yeah, I didn't think it was all that bad. Wasn't all that good, but in context (comparing it to Dolph's crapfest), it was ok.

Most people complain b/c Frank was never a federal agent before becoming the Punisher. LIke it fucking matters.

Ah, well, fanboys. Can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em.

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Ah, well, fanboys. Can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em.

That's why God invented baseball bats.

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Mmmm, baseball bats.

(btw, whomever you are, you just gained like 1000 coolness points - I thought I was the only person who used that line.)

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Really?

First time I've ever used the "That's why God invented ___" line with baseball bats. Swanky.

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granolademonic.livejournal.com

Ah, well, fanboys. Can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em.

No shit. I read an interview with Tim Burton, he said he went to a comic book convention in the 70s, and there was a panel promoting the new Superman movie, and some guy stood up and told the producers he was going to get everyone he knew to boycott the movie because Superman didn't change his clothes in the fucking phone booth.

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Oy.

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skaiser.livejournal.com

The new Punisher movies biggest problem was that it was boring. I found the fight scenes were well made, but short and few. Most of the movie was watching Frank Castle look sad and drink. Which without the requisite character development is just boring.

Also, his final punishment of the villain was so insanely over the top I could not help but feel sorry for the villain. I am not entirely sure if that is a plus or a minus for the film. But mostly I was just bored while watching the film.

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Oh, don't get me wrong. They could have easily removed some of the non-fight stuff, sure. But I didn't find it THAT boring (declaration: I was flipping through a book while I was watching it).

I'll agree the final payoff was a bit insufficient, but it would have been a bit too easy to just have never-ending firefights.

Saint's problem was that he wasn't very well developed. He was p-whipped, for sure, and seemed to be this guy who just wants money, cigars and cars. Travolta doesn't do evil very well, so I can see how his final 'punishment' would seem a little excessive. The whimpering didn't help.

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Aw, c'mon, JT was so f'ing cool as the badguy in Battlecrap Earth!!!!

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skaiser.livejournal.com

Well I suppose if I was reading a the same time as well I would have enjoyed the movie more as well.

The fact that the Travolta character never really came across as evil did not help the movie either. Besides the night before I saw the Punisher I watched Man on Fire. Now that was a good cruel revenge flick. Punisher should have been more like that movie.

Whatever happened to jigsaw? Now that would have been fun to do.

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Jigsaw's a good villain, yeah. Or maybe they can have him fight the Kingpin, only this time make him Asian.

I will go watch Man on Fire, now.

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jadasc.livejournal.com

I just think it's pointless to make a Punisher movie. The premise of the character upon his debut was, "What if one of those vigilantes from the Charles Bronson/Clint Eastwood movies wandered into a four-color comic universe. How does Spider-Man deal with a guy who's plan for fighting crime is 'shoot them with a big gun?'" In a movie environment, he's just another guy, y'know?

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The premise of the character upon his debut, back in the 70's, was a guy who didn't kill, too. Like the rest of his original premise, that's been thrown to the side.

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(maybe early 80's - but whenever his debut was, it was a while ago, the character has evolved.)

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No, he's always been a killer. I think for a while they used the 'mercy bullets' thingy, but that got tossed aside. Thank God.

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Ok, so he was a killer who used mercy bullets?

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Thta was later on. He started out as a stone cold, "I only kill the guilty" type.

I remember a later appearance where he shot up Spider-Man using the MBs.

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I seem to remember that, and another one (also back in the day) where he shot someone he and Spidey were after, and Punny was all like, "Yo, m'fer! Dey be mercy bullets, see?" w/o the ghettospeak, of course.

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doghousereilly.livejournal.com

That sequence with the Russian was practically the only thing I liked about that movie. To be honest, I think the whole thing took a wrong turn with the killing of Frank's family. Killing his wife and kids is necessary to the origin. Killing his second cousins and aunts twice removed (not to mention all their kids) is just insane overkill.

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