The group comes across as a hate group oriented towards people who do have children, and the children themselves.
Sure, some people might join because they advocate a lifestyle, but the group comes across in a certain way.
If they approve of that, they'll be painted with that brush.
Sure, they're not as bad as the heritage front, and that may have been a poor comparison, but overal, it's odious and foul. If they want to make a lifestyle choice, that's good. But being a dick about it is bad. And Childfree is a free range dick farm.
I'd agree a lot of it comes across as nasty. There's a few posts where I look at 'em and go 'what the hell is your problem?' - I mean, 'I'm nocturnal and kids wake me up' - boo-hoo, whatever. Construction and fire alarms wake -me- up all the time, but I'm not posting to a group about it.
However, there are points I agree with. If you've decided to not have kids, people -do- tend to get patronizing about the decision, people give you a hard time, and in some cases, you can be treated unfairly. Holidays and other occasions are often considered to be 'family time' - so single or couples without children can get shafted at work simply because they're not parents. That's kinda ass.
So I guess I'm saying I get where they're supposedly coming from - but like mostly places online, there's more jerks bitching than interesting discussion.
I agree that it's totally ridiculous that people who choose not to have kids get hassled (by everyone from relatives to total strangers) and aren't treated fairly by employers (though frankly, at my office, if you have kids, you're screwed). I'd really like to see that change (hopefully it is changing, with our generation).
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Date: 2004-11-26 03:37 pm (UTC)Sure, some people might join because they advocate a lifestyle, but the group comes across in a certain way.
If they approve of that, they'll be painted with that brush.
Sure, they're not as bad as the heritage front, and that may have been a poor comparison, but overal, it's odious and foul. If they want to make a lifestyle choice, that's good. But being a dick about it is bad. And Childfree is a free range dick farm.
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Date: 2004-11-26 03:53 pm (UTC)However, there are points I agree with. If you've decided to not have kids, people -do- tend to get patronizing about the decision, people give you a hard time, and in some cases, you can be treated unfairly. Holidays and other occasions are often considered to be 'family time' - so single or couples without children can get shafted at work simply because they're not parents. That's kinda ass.
So I guess I'm saying I get where they're supposedly coming from - but like mostly places online, there's more jerks bitching than interesting discussion.
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Date: 2004-11-26 04:03 pm (UTC)