T:TSCC and other excessive acronyms
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thebitterguySo Cynra & I watched the new Terminator series on Sunday & Monday. As an SF show on Fox it's got limited chances, but I'm looking forward to seeing what they do.
The pilot was interesting. Good casting on the Connors, and I like Summer Glau as Cameron the Terminator (Get it? Cameron? After James Cameron? HAH!).
The plot tended to have more than a few strange abberations in it.
Okay, so, apparently there have been dozens of people sent back in time. I want to know what the order was. Was it First Terminator, T-1000, T-X, Globs of Other Terminators, then in marches Connor and the crew and they send back Reese, Good Terminator 1, Good Terminator 2, Good Termiantor Glau, Oodles of Resistance fighters?
Seriously, they should have just sent five terminators and a squad of guys to guard Sara and John from the moment of his conception. Hell, send back Reese, let the events of T1 happen, then send back a Tec-Com platoon and a dozen Arnies. As it is, it's turning into the end of Bill & Ted 2. "John, the Terminators have sent a horde of robots back int ime to kill you, in addition to the first three!" "Oh yeah? Well, I'll send a technician back in time to 1963 to build a gun and a time machine!" "Why not a bunch of guns and let Kyle know where they are?" "Because you didn't suggest that until he'd already gone back!"
There's also a bit of strangeness in that the time machine they use to go forward. The Terminator gets asploded by the not radioactive gun, and its head flies into the time sphere and ends up in '07, as a McGuffin. Now, the reason you slap skin onto a terminator, in addition to being good for surveillance, is that inorganic material can't go through time. How did the head make the trip?
edit: Cynra posits that the fleshy covering was removed after it exited the time sphere. She is too forgiving.
Nerd quibbling aside, it didn't suck. Nicely paced, and seemed faithful to the feel of the first two films.
Nice to see a Terminator made of chocolate, after all.
The pilot was interesting. Good casting on the Connors, and I like Summer Glau as Cameron the Terminator (Get it? Cameron? After James Cameron? HAH!).
The plot tended to have more than a few strange abberations in it.
Okay, so, apparently there have been dozens of people sent back in time. I want to know what the order was. Was it First Terminator, T-1000, T-X, Globs of Other Terminators, then in marches Connor and the crew and they send back Reese, Good Terminator 1, Good Terminator 2, Good Termiantor Glau, Oodles of Resistance fighters?
Seriously, they should have just sent five terminators and a squad of guys to guard Sara and John from the moment of his conception. Hell, send back Reese, let the events of T1 happen, then send back a Tec-Com platoon and a dozen Arnies. As it is, it's turning into the end of Bill & Ted 2. "John, the Terminators have sent a horde of robots back int ime to kill you, in addition to the first three!" "Oh yeah? Well, I'll send a technician back in time to 1963 to build a gun and a time machine!" "Why not a bunch of guns and let Kyle know where they are?" "Because you didn't suggest that until he'd already gone back!"
There's also a bit of strangeness in that the time machine they use to go forward. The Terminator gets asploded by the not radioactive gun, and its head flies into the time sphere and ends up in '07, as a McGuffin. Now, the reason you slap skin onto a terminator, in addition to being good for surveillance, is that inorganic material can't go through time. How did the head make the trip?
edit: Cynra posits that the fleshy covering was removed after it exited the time sphere. She is too forgiving.
Nerd quibbling aside, it didn't suck. Nicely paced, and seemed faithful to the feel of the first two films.
Nice to see a Terminator made of chocolate, after all.
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Date: 2008-01-16 08:40 pm (UTC)It's fun. :)
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Date: 2008-01-16 09:23 pm (UTC)I did see the pilot on Sunday and we have #2 on our PVR. Much Love to the parents on that show.
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Date: 2008-01-16 11:21 pm (UTC)Remember, this is already an altered timeline, after a delayed Judgement Day, so the 'order' of time travel is a bit hard to place and may not make any semblance of sense. It may well be that no Terminators were sent _from_ this timeline to kill Sarah and John in the movies. I'm guessing in the timeline time travel developed earlier by Skynet and/or the Resistance (perhaps due to some knowledge that time travel had happened before), rather than just at the final battle, allowing more agents to be sent back.
It might also be that there's some sort of temporal limit. That is, this new timeline is as a result of T2. Because that's the branch point, maybe there's too much temporal inertia to make major changes to the timeline before T2 ends - all you can do is changes that nobody would have noticed. So you're allowed to set things up in 1963 so long as it only gets discovered later... otherwise temporal inertia kicks in and the timeline is shoved back into its proper course. But you can't try and kill baby John again, or Sarah's father, or whatever, and unfortunately, after T2 it was hard to locate John or Sarah to send a terminator after them (and the resistance didn't _need_ to send back protection because John knew where he was).
At least, if I were writing the series, that's how I'd deal with it. It's kind of fanwanky convenient, but I think it's a necessary evil when you're translating the show into the movie.
As to the 'head'... well, we haven't seen enough of it yet. It is a pretty big flub in the mythology to screw up, so maybe, hopefully, they have an explanation handy. Who knows, maybe it's made out of some kind of organic metal. Or technobabble interference from the isotope plasma gun which was fired right when the time bubble formed temporarily coated the terminator head with the same energy field that living things produce and allowed it to get sent forward. ;)
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Date: 2008-01-17 12:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-17 02:48 am (UTC)But I'm loving the show :)
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Date: 2008-01-17 03:20 am (UTC)