Date: 2007-06-02 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewline.livejournal.com
Huh. Not the first time I've read this sort of alleged logic, and it likely won't be the last.

Yeesh.

Date: 2007-06-02 07:27 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-06-02 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perich.livejournal.com
Maliki Sunni? Druse Lebanese? Ah, they're all the same color; who the fuck cares?

Date: 2007-06-02 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewline.livejournal.com
*stares in shock over the ongoing realization that there are people who really do believe in such thinking*

Date: 2007-06-02 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
Oh, you're just sensitive because you can't WAIT for the day when you're strutting around Milton (or Al-Miltan-izan...) in a big onion-shaped hat, whipping the goyim, or whatever it is you people do.

Date: 2007-06-02 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waiwode.livejournal.com
He's quite guilty of "monolithic" thinking in all three of his defined regions, however the first paragraph of his "Plato to NATO in five paragraphs" is pretty much right on the money, up to the last sentence.

His ignorance of several deep political (I'm not even touching the religious ones) differences among "the Islamic Empire" count against him, although between the rise of the Prophet and the fall of the Umayyad Caliphate he is correct .. a lot of conquerifying (mostly in water-poor Africa) did happen.

Pretty Map (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Age_of_Caliphs.png)

On the other hand, it should be noted that this conquering happened during the western Dark Age, and without the funding of West - East trade.

But, of course, which ever region of the world you're in, people are people, and eventually people want a piece of the pie for themselves. The Umayyad didn't last, and the successors fractioned and divided their territory ... just like in Europe. And West and Middle East continued to fight themselves and each other over pie (and trade and gold and oil) right up until today, violently ever after.

Doug.

Date: 2007-06-02 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ludickid.livejournal.com
That's awesomely dumb. I mean, just the sheer ahistoricality of it all, the notion that the Caliphate was some sort of unified, ideologically constant, unchanging and perpetual monolith during all that time (entire uncomparable to, say, the Egyptian dynasties, the Chinese dynasties, or the Eastern Church) is just amazingly...why doesn't this guy have his own Town Hall column, is what I want to know.

Date: 2007-06-03 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perich.livejournal.com
why doesn't this guy have his own Town Hall column

His occasional glowing paeans to FDR, for one.

Date: 2007-06-02 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
Crap on a crutch -- I started reading the comments thread on that post to see if you'd posted this insight there, and the sheer level of STUPID in overwhelmed me.

I'm keeping Hicks in my read list, but never never never opening the comments page again.

Date: 2007-06-02 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] optimussven.livejournal.com
What an amazingly retarded understanding of history. As was said above, the monolithic point of view is just ridiculous. As if there was actually one single Caliphate ruling the whole Muslim world for 1400 years. Yeesh.

And then the claims about WWI and WWII? Buh? Why did the Ottoman Empire side with Germany? Oh, I don't know, a little thing called Russia?

And then siding with the Nazis? Excuse me?

Whatever.

Date: 2007-06-03 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] multiplexer.livejournal.com
That post popped him off my 'casual read' lj list and into the circular file. We're all full up on crazy here and there just ain't any more room.

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