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So, yes, one of the great conundrums is this: What, exactly, IS Jeans & T-Shirt weather?

Today, ladies and gentlemen, we settle that debate for good.

I'd like to start by outlining why I decided we needed to settle this. Last weekend, while she was reducing me to a whimpering man/wretch, [livejournal.com profile] ketronic mentioned a divergence in opinion on this topic between herself and her relations to the East.

Edit: Props to [livejournal.com profile] anidada for pointing out that I did it wrong. Mea Culpa, etc.

So, yes, we shall settle it for good: What is jeans and T-Shirt weather?

To clarify, this is weather where it's warm enough that you don't need a sweater, but you still need jeans instead of shorts. Select all options where you'd wear eschew both a sweater/long shirt and shorts.

Temperatures are Celsius/Fahrenheit.
[Poll #724805]

Date: 2006-05-08 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anidada.livejournal.com
I find the comfort zone for that combination is 60-70F. Less, and I throw on a sweater or poncho. More, and I'm looking to bare my pasty legs somehow.

Date: 2006-05-08 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indefatigable42.livejournal.com
It depends on other conditions besides temperature. 18 C is T-shirt weather if it's bright and sunny out, but can feel downright chilly if it's cloudy and wet.

Date: 2006-05-08 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waiwode.livejournal.com
I am weirder than a two-button beanie with a three button stitch. So although I pretty much stand behind my choices, I consider 14 to 22 degrees to be sweater (or hoodie, pull over, rugby shirt, or other thick and warm top) and shorts weather.

I mean legs? Who cares if they get cold?

Doug.

Date: 2006-05-08 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com
Amen! Another sensible fellow.

I have been known to show up to work in January wearing shorts on the bottom half, and t-shirt+cotton-shirt+sweater on top half. Plus scarf and hat.

Legs feel better if they're not cooped up by needless pantalooning.

Date: 2006-05-08 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] innocent-man.livejournal.com
Actually, my answers might skew things a bit. I very seldom wear shorts, no matter what the weather. I feel most comfortable in jeans and t-shirt, but below about 65F I'd rather be wearing a long-sleeve T or a light sweatshirt.

Date: 2006-05-08 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bnddbl07.livejournal.com
Wow... I would say this case is nowhere near solved! Averaging 4 votes each from 14 up.... hehehehehe



Date: 2006-05-08 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indefatigable42.livejournal.com
That's to be expected if there's a geographic spread. What's warm to one person might feel cold to another. Canadian travellers (and Americans from warm touristy destinations) are familiar with the stereotype of the Canadian wearing shorts while all the locals are bundled up in sweaters.

Date: 2006-05-08 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bnddbl07.livejournal.com
I agree fully!

There is also of course the percentage of Body Fat on each respondent to factor in. The more natural insulation a person has, the cooler "T-Shirt" weather becomes.

I, of the larger members of the community, can prefer cooler rather then hotter... :)

Date: 2006-05-08 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indefatigable42.livejournal.com
Ultimately, I don't feel qualified to vote, because this is something I've thought about way too much. ^^;

There's a huge element of relative comfort here. In the spring, I start being comfortable wearing short sleeves outside when the daytime highs start to hit the upper teens, say 16 C or more. But once we've had a good solid week of 22 C and up, I put my jacket back on when it goes down to 18 C (even though I initially took it off for a lower temperature).

In the fall, I'm not sure what temperature would make me start wearing long pants, but I suspect it's around 20-22 C, because that feels downright cool after a 33 C summer.

When I was little my family would drive down to the southern US to visit family over the Christmas holidays. It would be -10 C at home, but after a day and a half of driving, we'd be in Maryland and it would be 14 C and we'd be running around in short sleeves at all the interstate rest stops.

Date: 2006-05-08 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com
Yet another trick poll question from the bitter guy. My answer is, the shorts come out way before the sweater comes off. In my general practice, the right time for "jeans and t-shirt" weather is never: I go from wearing jeans+t-shirt+cotton-shirt+sweater to either ditch the sweater or ditch the jeans in favour of shorts. My lightest summer apparel is typically shorts+t-shirt+cotton-shirt.

Me northern-euro-genes-white-guy. Me burn badly.

Your smoothly mocha-coloured skin probably handles that whole "sunlight" thing differently, I suppose... 8)

Date: 2006-05-08 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doc-mystery.livejournal.com
Another qualifier for the answer would be who is wearing the T-shirt and jeans, and who you would prefer to see covered up.

::B::

Date: 2006-05-09 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umario.livejournal.com
I like it chillier than most, but the sun has a huge impact. If it's cloudy, 14 doesn't feel like 14 and sunny.

I agree with some of the others - keeping the upper body warm is more important than keeping the legs warm.

And I'm skinny and dark. OK, not dark.

I biked across town in a soccer shirt, t-shirt and shorts on Saturday at about 9 or 10C.

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