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According to this image from Scans Daily, Alpha flight are now deaders.

So, if anyone's going to Ad Astra, we should hold some kind of wake.

Damn, that just sucks.

Date: 2006-02-19 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
I didn't know wookies were canadian...

Date: 2006-02-19 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] framlingem.livejournal.com
Most things with the degree of awesomeness possessed by wookiees are.

Date: 2006-02-19 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


You, my friend, are my new hero.


Date: 2006-02-20 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] framlingem.livejournal.com
Why thank you. Was it the sentiment, or the manner in which it was expressed that did it?

Date: 2006-02-21 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


Yes, and yes.

Date: 2006-02-19 08:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kinra.livejournal.com
Wow.

Fucking loss to the Swiss in hockey.

Electing Stephen Harper.

And now this.

Fuck.

Date: 2006-02-19 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doghousereilly.livejournal.com
See, this is why I don't read Marvel Comics anymore. Quesada claims that there are plans for Alpha Flight (http://www.newsarama.com/JoeFridays/JoeFridays38.html). He also claims that two members of the Fantastic Four are going to die. Which is just idiotic.

Date: 2006-02-19 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


He says two members of the Fantastic Four FAMILY are going to die.

That could be anyone from the Fantastic Four to Willy Lumpkin.

This is not directed at you [livejournal.com profile] doghousereilly, but why don't folks just wait til the issues come out instead of complaining about the hype and then buying into it THREE MONTHS BEFORE IT HAPPENS.

Date: 2006-02-19 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redeem147.livejournal.com
Willy Lumpkin?

NOOOOOOOOO!!

Next thing it'll be Irving Forbush.

Date: 2006-02-20 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doghousereilly.livejournal.com
No offense taken, but Quesada's comment was sparked by the mention of the FF: Death in the Family one-shot, which promises the death of the Invisible Woman. So I don't think I'm reaching too far with that one.

(By the way, I dig those FF radio shows you're posting. Haven't heard those in a while...)

Date: 2006-02-20 01:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)


He didn't confirm it was Sue who dies tho. They've *fibbed* in their solicitations before.

Remember, also, that the issue is packed with a reprint of the John Byrne Sue-miscarries-the-Negative-Zone-baby issue too.

Just remember that Sue isn't dead til we see her buried, and then its dubious.

(and hey - no problem with the FF Radio Show joy - Episode Two is up this week and there are 11 more where they came from. Things get decidedly weird when Ant Man shows up near the end...)

From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com
I'm glad you've been enjoying the FF Radio Shows - Episode Two is up right now, and I'm planning to keep three up at a time for folks coming late to the party, and a new one each week. I also have episodes of the British BATMAN MYSTERY CLUB show, the SUPERMAN radio show, the ARCHIE ANDREWS radio show from the 40's and more that will be rolled in on a once-weekly basis. Please dig in.

The solicitation refers to the fact that issue #245 is included in the DEATH IN THE FAMILY one-shot, and Quesada mentions that not one but two FF Family members die in the story, in contenuity. Here's where I humbly remind folks that in that story Franklin's powers went coo-coo-kaka and he artificially aged himself then started going berserk. The funny thing about Franklin's powers is that they play with reality. I think far too many people seem to think that the one-shot that's coming out is set *recently* when it's pretty clearly a sequel to a comic that came out 25 years ago (or they wouldn't be including it in the issue, right?). The other funny thing is that Franklin can completely make-it-never-happened (to borrow a Claremont expression - not something I'm not ever really wont to do), and if he did at that point, current Sue will still be alive, and it will still be "in continuity" because it "happened 5 years ago" in Marvel Time.

Not a "What If", not a hoax, not an Imaginary Story - just an extrapolation of a great Byrne story from 25 years ago - something that the one-shot's writer, Karl Kesel has done before, I might add, to great success (does anyone else remember that EXCELLENT FF annual by Kesel and Immonnen that had the Thing shot into the parallel dimension that aged in our chronology and everyone in the FF was in their 80's - the Friday Night Poker Game between the characters who don't age was amazing).



Outrage is a relative thing, I've found...

Date: 2006-02-19 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


Meanwhile over at DC, in the space of three weeks, two different women characters had their heads PUNCHED OFF OF THEIR SHOULDERS, on panel. To me, perhaps not to anyone else, this speaks to a peculiar kind of mysogeny showing up in their books this month.

We don't know the Alpha's are dead. We DO know that Pathera and Mongul's sister are VERY dead, because we had three comics in 4 week shoing us just how VERY dead they are. This is why I might not need to read any DC Comics for a while.

Oh wait - I work in a comic shop - I *have* to read them.

Great :/



Date: 2006-02-19 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anidada.livejournal.com
If comics have taught me anything, it's that such things aren't permanent. Don't freak just yet. Plenty of time for freaking and head-rolling later. *oils cricket bat* *bides time*

What?

Date: 2006-02-19 08:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-02-19 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaijugal.livejournal.com

Someone has been reading my dairy. First they kill Ted Kord. (BOOO!!) And now Alpha Flight. (As if the horrible writing of the last forever hasn't been a little death in of itself.)

I turn away from thee comics, for thou hast forsaken me! :P

(P.S. Kill members of the Fantastic Four? BWawhahaha! I think Ben has a tombstone with a digital counter on it by now. XD )

Date: 2006-02-20 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com

Do you really wanna see [livejournal.com profile] kaijugal cry, man?

Really?

(BTW: Godzilla-kicking-S.H.I.E.L.D.'s ass in B&W reprint form either this Wednesday or next, man...)

Date: 2006-02-19 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
Good lord. Remember when they weren't allow to show blood in comics?

The spirit of Blue Beetle is going to come back some day looking for revenge. Old school Charlton Comics Beetle! The one who used to beat up people who made depressing art.

Image

Date: 2006-02-19 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


The BEETLE beating people up for not making art that's morally uplifting...

And some people dare to say they don't see AYN RAND in Ditko's CHARLTON stuff.

Date: 2006-02-19 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redeem147.livejournal.com
Looks like someone's real ticked off that we didn't bend over and go to Iraq.

Date: 2006-02-19 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redeem147.livejournal.com
I'm going to think about stopping the FF if they kill two off, though I did that last time when they definitely forever killed off Reed, then I had to pick up the back issues...

The current Sue is from another dimension anyway - the one where she had the baby girl.

Date: 2006-02-20 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com

You just may have found the loop-hole in the whole *Gnnnyaaa! Not SUE!!!* kerfuffle.

It's Sue alright. Just not our Sue.

From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com

Relax. We don't know they're dead.

Many of them may have survived.

Besides, how many times have the individual members of ALPHA FLIGHT seemingly come back from the dead? (I'm looking at YOU, Guardian...)

Quesada has already said they have HUGE plans ahead for Alpha.
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com

The Spectre Blue Beetle Firestorm is dead!

Long live the New The Spectre Blue Beetle Firestorm!!!

By a similar thread of logic, a question...

Date: 2006-02-20 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


Bucky was killed off panel 42 years ago- how dead is he?







Re: By a similar thread of logic, a question...

Date: 2006-02-20 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


Read the issues - its really quite a good story, man.

From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


...is that no matter how many times those folks posture, and sneer, and bitch, and make fun of Marvel for saying hype-ey things like "The Internet will break in half..." or "You weren't expecting THIS, folks..." as soon as one of those things that Marvel has hyped comes up, they then proceed to either ACT like the Internet is breaking in half (like at the link you posted) or actually break sites for a while while they posture, and sneer, and bitch, and act like their hair's on fire (anyone who tried to log into NEWSARAMA the week that it was announced that Mark Waid was fired off of the Fantastic Four three years ago will know this is true.

It's like the fans are saying "GOD, I HATE FIRE... I'd HATE it if anything caught on FIRE..." while they're passing the folks at the company a box of old wood household matches, a can of gasoline, some kindling, and a flamable booklet titled "THE COMPLETE IDIOT'S GUIDE TO... Starting Fires Quickly".

Meanwhile, over at their DECAPITATING COMPETITION, people are waving their arms saying "Look!!! WE killed people!!! That's like Fire!! You HATE fire!!!"

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