Hmmm...

Jan. 2nd, 2006 10:20 pm
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Well, it looks like no matter what, when Superman V comes out, it won't suck as much as it could have.

Wow. Just... Wow. It's like a prose description of a multi-vehicle car crash.

From [livejournal.com profile] nihilistic_kid

Date: 2006-01-03 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
The nightmare that was the preproduction process on "Superman Returns" will make a great book someday.

A few notes, since this guy gets a few things wrong:

1) Harry Knowles will love anything. He loves "Manos: The Hands of Fate." I love the guy but he's a big, squishy twelve year old in pretty much every sense except physiological. Of COURSE he loved the Abrams script; this is a man who can rant for twenty thousand words about the genius of Scooby Doo. He doesn't read or understand comic books and thinks "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" sucks because he's only ever seen the movie.

2) Burton had no intention of directing "Superman Returns" and he knew it was never going to get to the filming stage...not with him at the helm at any rate. The man's not stupid; he knew the material didn't suit him at all. Most of the ideas accredited to him are either not his or ideas he proposed to try and get Warner Brothers to see he wasn't the man for the job without having to flat-out quit, thus burning bridges he needed since Disney refuses, to this day, to work with him.

3) The shitstorm that broke out when the J.J. Abrams draft leaked though was not done justice. 95% is a generous, even naive percentage of how many people hated that script. I literally read not a single good word about it. I was one of those people that signed the petition.

4) For those who haven't seen it, "An Evening With Kevin Smith" goes into far greater detail about Smith's brutal experience writing the script. This guy should have just quoted Smith verbatim, and he also explains Peters' psychosis in much greater detail.

Date: 2006-01-03 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
In Burton's case, yes, because after the "Ed Wood" disaster he was trying to stay on the A-list. Also, the failure of that movie was something he took deeply personally; if you wondered why "Planet of the Apes" was so impersonal, it's because he was working on autopilot and needed a hit. He took "Superman" for the same reason, although it quickly became apparent to him that this movie was never getting made.

You have to understand that A-list directors are as much middle managers as they are artists. Burton doesn't have a forceful personality and as a result he got ensnared in the corporate power struggle that poisoned Warner Brothers in the mid to late 90s.

As for Knowles...nah. Whores charge money and don't love you unconditionally. Give Harry a piece of candy and he's your buddy for life.


There's nothing wrong with hating JJ Abrams. The sole virtue of "Alias" is how unintentionally hilarious it is. I refuse to watch "Lost" because I know it's just going to get too convoluted and silly for its own good, and there's no point in getting caught up in it.

Date: 2006-01-03 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doghousereilly.livejournal.com
they decided to make a fifth film for release in 1989, with Captain America director Albert Pyun at the helm.

Holy shit. Holy shit. You don't know how close we came. Albert Pyun is right up there with guys like Ed Wood and Uwe Boll. He once directed a remake of Yojimbo with cyborgs (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0117238/).

And yet, I would still rather watch his Superman than Tim Burton's. Does that guy like anything? Besides skeletons, I mean.
(http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0701597/)

Date: 2006-01-03 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Now, I wouldn't go so far as to compare Albert Pyun with Uwe Boll. After all, Pyun knows exactly where he stands in the filmmaking quality hierarchy; Uwe Boll thinks his place above Berman and Fellini has been denied him.

And neither, frankly, have Ed's naive charm. :-)

Date: 2006-01-03 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ludickid.livejournal.com
For God's sake, why isn't Jon Peters dead yet?

Date: 2006-01-04 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atomiks.livejournal.com
Jeez - that editorial just keeps going on and on! If I had a longer attention...oooh! Squirrels!

Date: 2006-01-04 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terminal-pariah.livejournal.com
Up up... and away! (http://catfly.ytmnd.com/)

Date: 2006-01-04 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deven-science.livejournal.com
Crap! I can't believe I wasted that much work time to actually read all of that. I'm not familiar with Jon Peters, but he sounds like he needs all of his toys taken away from him. Bad Jonny. Bad boy.

Date: 2006-01-05 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doc-mystery.livejournal.com
This is stale (albeit interesting) news; I remember reading the sordid story on slashdot several months ago.

I would have enjoyed a Kevin Smith written/directed Superman V, myself; just hold the spiders.

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