Man, I guess I missed this

[thebitterguy]

There's a new Punisher movie coming out this fall.

I wonder if it will be the good one? Or just continue the trend?

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[life-on-queen.livejournal.com]

Ray Stevenson (Titus Pullo) is playing Castle, so I have hopes. But then they released a pic and he looked like Segal in the photo, so my hopes have been proportionally downsized.

[lowercaseem.livejournal.com]

I was also going to comment that the cast looked hopeful.

Then I remembered it's a movie adaptation of a comic book.

[thetathx1138.livejournal.com]

Ouch. Didn't like "Ghost World" or "American Splendor", huh?

[waiwode.livejournal.com]

The first one is based on my favourite (as in the only one I've read, and that on a recommendation from others) Punisher TP.

Which made it kind of extra disappointing.

Of all the Marvel properties, this has got to be one of the ones I'm least interested in seeing on film. I mean, the whole Guy-with-a-gun-getting-revenge thing is so ... 80's.

Now ... a Punisher & Dazzler movie? Hells yes!

(On a slightly serious note, when it comes to darkness and light, a Cloak & Dagger movie might be neat).

[creativedv8tion.livejournal.com]

Ghost World was boring.

[creativedv8tion.livejournal.com]

Yeah, b/c two runaways with super powers, black and white in harmony, that's so not-80s... ;)

[thetathx1138.livejournal.com]

Heh, I was just being a smartass. :-)

[thebitterguy]

Don't forget they were given their powers by drug runners. Just say no, kids!

On a serious note, they are a really neat pair of characters. I liked what Vaughn did with them in Runaways.

[creativedv8tion.livejournal.com]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I dug Cloak and Dagger back in the day; I thought there was a lot of potential there. Haven't read much of Runaways, so I'm not sure what was done, but maybe I'll see about finding some to find out.

And nitting picks here, but the drugs just 'awakened' their mutant powers (well, editorially they were later turned into mutants when Marvel made just about everyone some form of mutant - even Spidey and Hulk were classified as latent mutants who were altered by exterior radioactive stimuli...)

[dewline.livejournal.com]

Drugrunners who suckered them into a trap where they couldn't say no to being disposable lab rats, as I recall. If any characters in the Marvel roster serve as halfway-decent anti-drug message characters, it's these two. They were designed for it.

[circus13.livejournal.com]

Come on, you know it's gonna be good with a Roman legionnaire from ROME as the Punisher and WAYNE KNIGHT as Microchip! How can you go wrong with that combination!?

[thebitterguy]

So are they counted among the 198?

[thebitterguy]

The last one had some good casting, too, John Travolta aside.

Scientifically speaking...

[absinthe-dot-ca.livejournal.com]

Actually, I'm hopeful - I think it's a given that the last movie was far better than the Dolph Lundgren one. At that rate, the next one should be positively Shakespearean in nature, by extrapolating the curve. Of course, plotting a curve based on two data points has an error rate of plus/minus about a thousand percent, but whatever.

And I agree with life_on_queen - I saw a promo shot for the first time a few weeks ago and I thought "What the hell? Did they get Steven Seagal as the Punisher?"

If nothing else, there might be a new t-shirt design for me... Because, you know, I don't have enough skull shirts already.

[thebitterguy]

Do you have a link to the images?

[absinthe-dot-ca.livejournal.com]

I think this (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/articles/4141.asp) is the image I was referring to anyway....

[lowercaseem.livejournal.com]

I haven't managed to sit through all of GHOST WORLD.

AMERICAN SLENDO[U]R was entertaining.

Perhaps I should rephrase it:
"Then I remembered it is a movie adaptation of a pulpy Marvel comic book."

[thetathx1138.livejournal.com]

Still, you've got "Hulk", "Blade" and the first X-Men movies to deal with. None of them are perfect (well, I feel strongly that "Hulk" is one of the best movies Hollywood's put out this decade, but I'm in the minority on that one) but as mainstream action silliness goes, they're all well put together.

[lowercaseem.livejournal.com]

I would only have to deal with those three movies (it will be an extremely cold day in hell before I accept that X-MEN 2 or 2.5 are good; I'm accepting BLADE for the sake of argument.) if they weren't the exceptions.

There have been so many comic adaptations recently that the bubble will be bursting any day now. It is inevitable.

The Punisher is itself a sort of mainstream action silliness adapted into comic form. That genre has almost sailed all by its lonesome, nevermind as a comic adaptation.

I am still hopeful for a bit of mindlessness put on the screen in an entertaining way. But the wealth of recent evidence leads me to conclusion that it is only HOPE which allows me to entertain that idea...

Blah di blah, shit disturber :P

Re: Scientifically speaking...

[creativedv8tion.livejournal.com]

I think it's a given that the last movie was far better than the Dolph Lundgren one.

Pretty much any movie can be assumed to be better than the Dolph Lundgren Punisher movie.

[thetathx1138.livejournal.com]

Oh, I definitely agree with you on that bubble. And Marvel's leveraged to the eyeballs on that bubble, too. It's going to be UGLY.

[gamera-spinning.livejournal.com]

Well, at least it isn't Ray Stevens (http://www.raystevens.com/). That would be like Dolph Lundrgen all over again.

[life-on-queen.livejournal.com]

Sorry. Check out Coming Soon.

[thebitterguy]

Your cruelty knows no bounds.

At least it didn't start playing The Streak.

Re: Scientifically speaking...

[rentagurkha.livejournal.com]

Not true. It's not even the worst movie based on a Marvel comic. In fact I think it only barely cracks the Top 5 worst Marvel Comics Adaptations.

Re: Scientifically speaking...

[thebitterguy]

Hmm... Elektra, X3... I'm stumped.

edit: Oh, wait: Every other Marvel movie made in the '80s, like that really bad, never really released Fantastic Four movie and the Captain America flick where the Red Skull is Italian.

Re: Scientifically speaking...

[rentagurkha.livejournal.com]

Also Howard the Duck, Daredevil, Roger Corman's Fantastic Four, Captain America (1990 version).

Re: Scientifically speaking...

[rentagurkha.livejournal.com]

Ah, I see you remembered the ones I was thinking of. Plus, as I mentioned, the Daredevil with Ben Affleck.

[commanderteddog.livejournal.com]

I'm holding out for a movie version of the Punisher/Archie crossover myself.

[atomiks.livejournal.com]

I dunno. The first Punisher taught me all sorts of new and inventive ways to kill bad guys!