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Okay, I know there’s another issue left, but can we pretty much consider it resolved that Infinite Crisis was lame? The overall story, while containing an acceptable FYMPI ratio (Fuck Yeah Moment Per issue), was pretty lame, and not quite as good as the lead up stories (at least, not as good as Villains United was).

The reintroduction of Kal-L, Alex Luthor, Superboy Prime and Lois, who quickly become A Dick (okay, that’s established), a low rent supervillain (Gold tights, red ‘fro? Eesh), a member of The Authority, and a corpse, respectively, is really nothing more than a cheesy plot point.

I mean, the whole “your world has become dark and horrible” can be easily rephrased as “you’ve had shitty publicity stunts that have failed to staunch the increased loss of readers, so why don’t you try to draw back the old and gray ones with a half hearted attempt to rekindle their love of comics that haven’t been published for two decades”.

What’s worse, they even cocktease the fans for a couple issues, before going “Nah, we’re just fucking with you”. At least with the original Crisis the last issue wasn’t a lame ass wrapup. There was story there.

You know, Civil War don’t look too great (in fact, it looks pretty bad), but it’ll at least be a somewhat new idea. And definitely better than House of M.

Why does Marvel choose to promote its crossovers with these cheesy giveaway sketchbooks? Man, put something IN that book, make it 8 pages in colour and that’ll be good. Just not the Young Warriors thing that’s been polluting my monthly reading.

Admittedly, I’m gonna get IC 6, and I’ve been enjoying the Superman arc with Busiek (the GL & Hawkgirl appearance? Awesome! “Time to get back in the game?” Righteous!) I’m halfway tempted to pick up a Batman book (only halfway) to see what’s going on with him.

But overall, this has turned out to be a bust. Which is a shame.

Date: 2006-04-12 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kynn.livejournal.com
*Superboy Prime punches the universe a few more times until Infinite Crisis doesn't suck so bad*

Date: 2006-04-12 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graveyardgreg.livejournal.com
It could have been something great. IC was a big disappointment, but maybe the aftermath won't be too bad. I'm loving Teen Titans, I'm going to pick up some of the miniseries, and we've got the Shadowpact, which will be written and drawn by Bill Willingham. YAY!

Date: 2006-04-12 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If I learned one thing from Identity Crisis, it's NEVER judge a story until you've read the last issue.

--T.C. Badass
(Who also just happens to bring a flamethrower along)

Date: 2006-04-12 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] creativedv8tion.livejournal.com

I dunno, I've rather enjoyed it; I'm not going to be happy with the ending, to be honest - I think a return to an official multiverse would be a great way to go. Bring back Earth-2, rejuventate the Justice Society so that they're all young and not 90 year old superheroes, and let that be a world of more four colour heroics. Have DC Earth/Earth-1 as the current heroes with a slice of darkness that most of them are right now... and then let's make Earth-3 a big part, a world of villains - think of the (*gasp*) stories that could be told with that!

Anyhow. I doth digresseth. I've enjoyed this, b/c I grew up on Supes of Earth-2 and Lois-2 and Superdickhead Prime, and even Alexander Luthor, yes. I am engaged in the story of Alex and Superdickface being such complete asshats. When I read it to my gf over the phone I growl and snarl and "omigod" and she has to ask, "What? What?"

So, no, I don't find it lame. Sure, it could be better, but then most big comic book events could.

Date: 2006-04-12 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
"Civil War" strikes me as a watered-down "Watchmen" with Marvel heroes.

That said, the Young Avengers are involved, and I am all over anything with the Young Avengers.

Date: 2006-04-13 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redeem147.livejournal.com
I just read my Superman comics and pretended the rest wasn't happening.

Sometimes that worked. It seemed pretty lame, what I saw crossover, though. I hated that two Supermen fighting thing.

Date: 2006-04-13 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dawgstar.livejournal.com
Well, one thing they did get right was the Teen Titans tie-in issue that took place in the moments during the big fight with Superboy Prime. Contrast this with the similar issue of Bendis' The Pulse that took place during Secret War (and used nearly all the same art) and it was just... meh. (("Well," I hear people say. "You read that, so it's your own damn fault." And they're right.))

I'm with you on the side of 'meh.' It just hasn't done anything I got really excited about.

On the upside, 52 looks kinda good.

Date: 2006-04-13 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mark-argent.livejournal.com
My disappointment with IC is tempered by my love of Seven Soldiers. 7S is everything IC should have been.

In answer to your post from the other day, btw, this is why I read your lj.

Well...

Date: 2006-04-13 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skaiser.livejournal.com
I have read the individual issues through to six at work thanks to a friend bringing them in and have been mildly impressed with what I have read. That all being said I find that with many of the comics these days there doesn't seem to be much point in reading it until the damn things done. While the writing quality in comics is top notch these days in many respects, the ability to write a single compelling issue that stands on its own seems to have disappeared all but completely. Therefore I reserve my judgment until I can read the trade and see it all at once.

Prime example would be House of M. Reading it as a trade made for an ok what if style read. If I had read it in individual issues, I would have screamed bloody murder at the pacing and seeming incoherence. The DC comics I have read seem to be a bit better at the individual issue pacing than Marvel, but all and all I have completely given up on picking up single issues now. Between long drawn out issues that seem pointless to read on their own, to the seemingly more common delays I find its just better to let the entire thing have its run and then pick up the completed stuff in one volume.

Date: 2006-04-13 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


I've been saying this since issue two and I've been saying it LOUDER since the all-head-punching issue.

It's a cheap trick to go for a "fan-pop" by having the heroes get the shit kicked out of them for OVER FIVE ISSUES in a Seven issue series, only to have them suddenly be able to get over their angst and do the heroic things they should have been doing all along for the last two.

All Alexander Luther needed was a fricking Persian cat to stroke in all of his scenes, particularly the two issues he spent talking to the "captives" in the big-used-to-be-the-antimonitor-vibratory-device-of-doom and his role as Donald Pleasance in YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE would have been perfected.

The One Year Later stuff has been MUCH better, but Infinite Crisis has just *blown*, and this strange, obsessive need to elliminate "sillyness" (be it in the form of the Metal Men, Metamorpho, or Plastic Man to the systematic killing-off of the Giffen / deMatheis Justice League) has been the strongest indication, in my opinion, of a company that is trying so hard to be "taken seriously" that it can't laugh at itself anymore.

And *that*'s the lamest thing of ALL.


Date: 2006-04-13 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com

I can see what you're saying, but what does SEVEN SOLDIERS (truly a magnificent braided series of seven seperate mini-series) have in common with INFINITE CRISIS at *all* tho?

I mean, if we really need to have something to throw the awulness of INFINITE CRISIS into shatrp relief, doin't we have the original crisis for that?

SEVEN SOLDIERS is really, breathtakingly, fresh and good.

Date: 2006-04-13 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


There's no way I'd pay for 52. Fortunately I don't have to.

Each issue of INFINITE CRISIS was $5.50 Canadian - half as much more as any other book out there, mostly.

GAH!

Date: 2006-04-13 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


Why should any series need to be explained by books that aren't in the series and that the company that is producing them insists are unneccessary to buy to follow the story?

This whole thing has just annoyed me, man...

Punching reality wrong...

Date: 2006-04-13 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


The lame lameness of the lame-ity of that lameness drowns me in a vast lame sea of endless lameness.

People bitch about "No More Mutants" and say that HOUSE OF M changed nothing (see the first half of this very sentance to prove they don't know what they're talking about), but Superboy-Prime "tantruming continuity glitches into and out of existance" is brilliance???

GAHH!!!!!

Date: 2006-04-13 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


There was a LOT to hate about this mess.

Now I'm wondering how long Superman is meant to be an unpowered spectator in his own comic? No wait - his THREE comics...

Another year?

GAHHHH!!!!!

Date: 2006-04-13 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uhlrik.livejournal.com
The day comics can't laugh at themselves anymore is the day that comics might as well come to an end.

Date: 2006-04-13 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


Well, welcome to the "DC NATION"!!

Date: 2006-04-13 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papajoemambo.livejournal.com


I don't think there *is* gonna be a trade schedule.

And yes, you can read my issues of 52.

Date: 2006-04-13 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
We'll see. I'll spare you boredom by not spouting, yet again, my low opinion of Mark Millar but the build-up so far hasn't been terribly impressive. I'm more interested in the YA/Runaways crossover and why the F**K Marvel thought a new Spider-Man suit was a good idea. Because it worked so well the last, what, three times?

Date: 2006-04-14 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uhlrik.livejournal.com
Depends which segment of Image you're talking about. Erik Larsen sure didn't/doesn't take his work seriously. Rob Leifeld's work, whatever his intention, is inherently incapable of being taken seriously.

Date: 2006-04-14 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uhlrik.livejournal.com
That is a truly horrifying thought.... ergh... .arrr... *head a'splode*

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