More thoughts from yesterday

[thebitterguy]

A) If anyone wants one, a Catwoman Barbie (Halle Berry version) is on sale at Erin Mills Sears for $4.94.

B) Batman is so obnoxious because he's a character in a 700 point game who's stuck with Normal Characteristic Maxima. So he's got all these stupid allies ("satellite network with nano robots") and powers ("Autofire find weakness at 22-") and stuff, and he picked up some Psych Lims for free. And I hate him.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

If Batman has NCM, it doesn't much show up in his stats:

STR 25
DEX 28
CON 20
BOD 12
INT 35
EGO 35
PRE 30
COM 18
(Sources: DC Heroes RPG, 3rd Edition & Official MEGS to HERO Conversion Rules from The Adventurer's Club magazine).

Sorry, but it looks like you need a new theory.

And why aren't you thinking of him in Mutants & Masterminds terms like everybody else?
:-)

Your pal,
T.C. Badass

[james-nicoll.livejournal.com]

Normal stats just means that the cost of stats above NHM is doubled. It doesn't keep him from having them, it just makes them horribly expensive.

Or so I recall HERO SYSTEM.

[(Anonymous)]

As I said in my post, if he has it, it doesn't show very much. It wouldn't make any sense to double the cost of all those over-20 stats for the sake of a 20 point Disad.

--T.C. Badass, who recalls HERO System, too.
:-)

[james-nicoll.livejournal.com]

It might make sense in terms of character conception.

Also, DC HEROES was geared to high-end characters in HERO terms, so translating from to the other will produce godlike characters. IMO.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, I agree with you totally, but if the characters didn't come out at least a little godlike then they wouldn't really be DC Comics characters, nes pas?

Even when I was writing for the WEG DCU system, it amazed me that characters like Captain Cold came out with Einsteinian intellects. (If he's so smart, why does he keep fighting a guy who can MOVE AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT?!?!?!)

--T.C. Badass, who's not the least bit godlike.

[redeem147.livejournal.com]

That Catwoman would make an inexpensive and thoughtful Christmas present for someone. Just saying ;)

[james-nicoll.livejournal.com]

"Even when I was writing for the WEG DCU system, it amazed me that characters like Captain Cold came out with Einsteinian intellects. (If he's so smart, why does he keep fighting a guy who can MOVE AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT?!?!?!)"

Pity the Turtle, whose power was to move very very slowly. Yeah, that worked out about as well as you'd expect.

MANHUNTER had a little bit at the beginning where Mark Shaw is hunting whoever it was that had the Philosopher's Stone. He comments that most people could probably figure out a dozen ways to use the Stone to make money legally. His quarry used it to rob banks and then bet on the Cubs. Shaw captured him by buying him a hooker and then attacking once everyone was naked.

Come to think of it, Shaw went up against the Flash and his tactic, which worked perfectly, was to immediately surrender.

[creativedv8tion.livejournal.com]

If he's so smart, why does he keep fighting a guy who can MOVE AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT?!?!?!

Maybe his ego can't handle being beaten by a Police Scientist/A Police Scientist's Punk Nephew?

[james-nicoll.livejournal.com]

Except for the Reverse-Flash, I don't think Flash's Rogues Gallery had any idea who was under the mask until Barry was dead (or maybe during that interminable trial). Once Barry was gone, a lot of them just gave up on the rivalry.

In fact, I seem to recall the Rogues inviting Wally to some kind of (non-criminal) do. I couldn't swear to it but I think that's where Wally and the Piper became friends.

And to totally win my comic geeks points, Golden Glider talked with Wally about how much she hated Barry, how she wanted to see him dead and his wife dead and his dog dead and his intestinal flora dead and so on at some length. When Wally asked if her vendetta extended to him, she said something like "No, that would be crazy."

[creativedv8tion.livejournal.com]

Yeah, everyone prolly found out from the trial. I wouldn't know, I didn't really read it. (Actually, I think I did and blacked it out?)

I thought the Rogues inviting Wally was b/c of whom he was - a hands-off sorta thing, but... dunno, dinnit read that one either. *shrugs* I'm lax on my comicsness.

[james-nicoll.livejournal.com]

Wally got the invite as a joke. Whoever sent it didn't think he would show up.

[creativedv8tion.livejournal.com]

Okay, so now I'm confused what that has to do with the whole identity thing now.

[thebitterguy]

Hero 4Ever!

Besides, you just cant' take everything LITERALLY. My theory is still sound.

[mneme]

Yah. This isn't how I'd build him in Hero -- I'd give him NCM, and really high skill levels.

IMO, translating a character from one system to another by translating all their stats, etc is very nearly the -worst- way to do it; you lose any advantages of the new system, retain any disadvantages from the old system, and add new issues via translation fuzz.

[thebitterguy]

Or use the stats of the Harbinger of Justice and take away gun skills.